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		<title>By: DebtKid: The last 3 years in 17 posts</title>
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		<dc:creator>DebtKid: The last 3 years in 17 posts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] realize out of money, hit rock bottom, tell parents [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Norak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should keep exercising because your health has value. Your health also enables you to work more.

Plus this blog can generate cash.

I recommend you get two jobs, whatever they pay, work 80 hours a week, and do this for 10 years straight. You should have a net worth of about $100,000 by then. With this you can put $50,000 into buying a cheap house in the country or in a developing countries and the other $50,000 can be put into conservative investment that produces passive income that covers your food costs. Then you can retire early (in your 30s or 40s) and live peacefully thereafter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should keep exercising because your health has value. Your health also enables you to work more.</p>
<p>Plus this blog can generate cash.</p>
<p>I recommend you get two jobs, whatever they pay, work 80 hours a week, and do this for 10 years straight. You should have a net worth of about $100,000 by then. With this you can put $50,000 into buying a cheap house in the country or in a developing countries and the other $50,000 can be put into conservative investment that produces passive income that covers your food costs. Then you can retire early (in your 30s or 40s) and live peacefully thereafter.</p>
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		<title>By: owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, you&#039;re 24 - time to stop taking orders from yr parents and get a life. Fuck those zombies and their credit rating generation. It&#039;s just a bullshit con to keep your ass enslaved to folk you don&#039;t even know. Don&#039;t encourage their usury by trying to make your payments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, you&#8217;re 24 &#8211; time to stop taking orders from yr parents and get a life. Fuck those zombies and their credit rating generation. It&#8217;s just a bullshit con to keep your ass enslaved to folk you don&#8217;t even know. Don&#8217;t encourage their usury by trying to make your payments.</p>
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		<title>By: 6 Month Update - I&#8217;m Still Here</title>
		<link>http://www.debtkid.com/this-is-much-more-emotionally-draining-than-i-was-expecting/comment-page-1#comment-1270</link>
		<dc:creator>6 Month Update - I&#8217;m Still Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by short selling my home. I&#039;ve been trying to build my business income up. This while trying to deal with being over 300K in debt and now living in my office. Let&#039;s just say my life ain&#039;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by short selling my home. I&#8217;ve been trying to build my business income up. This while trying to deal with being over 300K in debt and now living in my office. Let&#8217;s just say my life ain&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Million Paths</title>
		<link>http://www.debtkid.com/this-is-much-more-emotionally-draining-than-i-was-expecting/comment-page-1#comment-1022</link>
		<dc:creator>A Million Paths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an old post and I just stumbled across it, but while I say lose the gym membership I don&#039;t think you should stop working out. Working out and being physically active (a moderate amount) pays out in dividends that working for the same amount of time ( say an hour a day six days a week six hours a week) doesn&#039;t. You reduce medical costs, improve your serotonin levels (working out is as effective as many prescription drugs for mild depression, and dept can often trigger depression). Get dumbbells for free from freecycle and a decent pair of tennis shoes (buy online *much* cheaper than in the store) and you have a very cost effective exercise regimen (assuming you pay 50 bucks for a pair of shoes, and you replace them every 6 months that&#039;s 100 bucks a year). Exercise also triggers creativity, and over time reduces your need for sleep, all of which can give you much needed money (bright ideas, and the need to refrain from fashion therapy). Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an old post and I just stumbled across it, but while I say lose the gym membership I don&#8217;t think you should stop working out. Working out and being physically active (a moderate amount) pays out in dividends that working for the same amount of time ( say an hour a day six days a week six hours a week) doesn&#8217;t. You reduce medical costs, improve your serotonin levels (working out is as effective as many prescription drugs for mild depression, and dept can often trigger depression). Get dumbbells for free from freecycle and a decent pair of tennis shoes (buy online *much* cheaper than in the store) and you have a very cost effective exercise regimen (assuming you pay 50 bucks for a pair of shoes, and you replace them every 6 months that&#8217;s 100 bucks a year). Exercise also triggers creativity, and over time reduces your need for sleep, all of which can give you much needed money (bright ideas, and the need to refrain from fashion therapy). Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: debt kid</title>
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		<dc:creator>debt kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, thanks for the advice! I actually had a friend cut my hair this weekend...price? Free!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, thanks for the advice! I actually had a friend cut my hair this weekend&#8230;price? Free!</p>
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		<title>By: Amazed in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amazed in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 03:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, hate to be a killjoy but sometimes the truth is not pretty.  I haven&#039;t read all of your posts but maybe the first 2. You have $300k of debt, you &quot;had&quot; XM radio subscription, you have your own business (lots of work), and one of your goals includes &quot;having somewhat of a life&quot; and you think you have time to write a blog and go to the gym.  

Advice: take a really hard look at where you spending money (then stop it), get a part-time job (instead of going to the gym and writing a blog), use the part-time money to help pay off the loans.  This isn&#039;t going to dig you completely out of your hole but based on some observation of your situation, I think some of your poor decision making is part of the problem.  

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, hate to be a killjoy but sometimes the truth is not pretty.  I haven&#8217;t read all of your posts but maybe the first 2. You have $300k of debt, you &#8220;had&#8221; XM radio subscription, you have your own business (lots of work), and one of your goals includes &#8220;having somewhat of a life&#8221; and you think you have time to write a blog and go to the gym.  </p>
<p>Advice: take a really hard look at where you spending money (then stop it), get a part-time job (instead of going to the gym and writing a blog), use the part-time money to help pay off the loans.  This isn&#8217;t going to dig you completely out of your hole but based on some observation of your situation, I think some of your poor decision making is part of the problem.  </p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Boston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in Boston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Counseling?  As in psych?  Not credit counseling?  I have found from my experience that most credit counselors are really not in the business for the sake of your best interest.  I would avoid a credit counselor.

You should meet with a financial planner and your bank to see what you can do about restructuring debt.

My question is how on earth did you get this far into the hole?  Did you have a margin call?  I mean even a bad trader would see warning signs and perhaps take action sooner than later.  

I think its great you are taking action.  You should also review all your monthly expenses and trim everything that is not an absolute necessity.  Skip a haircut every other month, get rid of cable, use only one phone.  Drive a cheaper car... or sell the car and ride a bike!

To have a cash outflow of $6K in personal expenses you need to gross about $120K annually Live within the 60% rule that 60% of your gross income is all that your expenses should ever total.

With a 120K gross, the 60% rule affords you $6000 per month for your expenses.

Add to that your business expense and you need to gross a lot more.  So... have you thought of putting your business on hold for a while and going out an getting a job?  You are 23. You have PLENTY of time ahead of you to be self emplyed.   Self employment is great if you can swing it, but it sounds like you are not quite prepared for that yet.  You are still young.  Work in the &quot;real&quot; world for 5 years, and focus on your own business after you have some real experience under your belt.  Don&#039;t let your ego get in the way.  Hard decisions still are yet to be made.  Perhaps closing up shop and working for the man for a while  is a corrective step that you need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Counseling?  As in psych?  Not credit counseling?  I have found from my experience that most credit counselors are really not in the business for the sake of your best interest.  I would avoid a credit counselor.</p>
<p>You should meet with a financial planner and your bank to see what you can do about restructuring debt.</p>
<p>My question is how on earth did you get this far into the hole?  Did you have a margin call?  I mean even a bad trader would see warning signs and perhaps take action sooner than later.  </p>
<p>I think its great you are taking action.  You should also review all your monthly expenses and trim everything that is not an absolute necessity.  Skip a haircut every other month, get rid of cable, use only one phone.  Drive a cheaper car&#8230; or sell the car and ride a bike!</p>
<p>To have a cash outflow of $6K in personal expenses you need to gross about $120K annually Live within the 60% rule that 60% of your gross income is all that your expenses should ever total.</p>
<p>With a 120K gross, the 60% rule affords you $6000 per month for your expenses.</p>
<p>Add to that your business expense and you need to gross a lot more.  So&#8230; have you thought of putting your business on hold for a while and going out an getting a job?  You are 23. You have PLENTY of time ahead of you to be self emplyed.   Self employment is great if you can swing it, but it sounds like you are not quite prepared for that yet.  You are still young.  Work in the &#8220;real&#8221; world for 5 years, and focus on your own business after you have some real experience under your belt.  Don&#8217;t let your ego get in the way.  Hard decisions still are yet to be made.  Perhaps closing up shop and working for the man for a while  is a corrective step that you need.</p>
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