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	<title>Comments on: Financial Emergency &#8211; Wells Fargo Wipes Out My Business Account</title>
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		<title>By: jimmyipp</title>
		<link>http://www.debtkid.com/financial-emergency-wells-fargo-wipes-out-my-business-account/comment-page-1#comment-19291</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmyipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 06:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wells fargo asked me to make 3 payments of 1700,00 to make my bring my charge account to a lower interest rate,back to 9%. I did that thinking I was getting somewhere.  NOT! As if I didnt have enough hardship. We are HVAC contractors in central Ca. Tied to the housing crash,our gross went from 1,300,000.00 mil to 230.00 in 3 years. I was not told during all of the negotiating any time that they could do this. To wait until I had finally collected 12,000 and deposited it to my account. They withdrew 14,300.00.  In the night (like agood thief would)I have other checks out  to pay my venders. Of course,They will bounce. I wont be able to buy materials, I have nothing to make payroll for three employees,with children . So decxeptive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wells fargo asked me to make 3 payments of 1700,00 to make my bring my charge account to a lower interest rate,back to 9%. I did that thinking I was getting somewhere.  NOT! As if I didnt have enough hardship. We are HVAC contractors in central Ca. Tied to the housing crash,our gross went from 1,300,000.00 mil to 230.00 in 3 years. I was not told during all of the negotiating any time that they could do this. To wait until I had finally collected 12,000 and deposited it to my account. They withdrew 14,300.00.  In the night (like agood thief would)I have other checks out  to pay my venders. Of course,They will bounce. I wont be able to buy materials, I have nothing to make payroll for three employees,with children . So decxeptive.</p>
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		<title>By: Lost Cause</title>
		<link>http://www.debtkid.com/financial-emergency-wells-fargo-wipes-out-my-business-account/comment-page-1#comment-9929</link>
		<dc:creator>Lost Cause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you continue to business with the same people who are treating you like a milk cow? Make a list of all these assholes, and then cross them off one by one. Either you are an idiot who can&#039;t do third grade math, or certain companies make an industry out of broadsiding an innocent public.

Good God, when are you going to realize that you are not the victim, you are a willing participant. Protect yourself! When the man picks your pocket -- really, what more can they do? Break into your house? Oh, that&#039;s right, they already took your house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you continue to business with the same people who are treating you like a milk cow? Make a list of all these assholes, and then cross them off one by one. Either you are an idiot who can&#8217;t do third grade math, or certain companies make an industry out of broadsiding an innocent public.</p>
<p>Good God, when are you going to realize that you are not the victim, you are a willing participant. Protect yourself! When the man picks your pocket &#8212; really, what more can they do? Break into your house? Oh, that&#8217;s right, they already took your house.</p>
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		<title>By: Lulugal11</title>
		<link>http://www.debtkid.com/financial-emergency-wells-fargo-wipes-out-my-business-account/comment-page-1#comment-9926</link>
		<dc:creator>Lulugal11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been away from your blog for a while and then I come back and see this. Ouch!
I will keep you in my thoughts and I hope it all works out. That is a really tough situation to be in right now and I feel for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been away from your blog for a while and then I come back and see this. Ouch!<br />
I will keep you in my thoughts and I hope it all works out. That is a really tough situation to be in right now and I feel for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Smart Girl = MP</title>
		<link>http://www.debtkid.com/financial-emergency-wells-fargo-wipes-out-my-business-account/comment-page-1#comment-9917</link>
		<dc:creator>Smart Girl = MP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Debt Kid:

It would be SO HELPFUL for all of your readers to see a spreadsheet of all the debts, personal and business.  Know where you are in the BK process now long it will be until it is concluded.  And, get a better picture for your business&#039; income generation, your P&amp;L statement, forecast, etc.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Debt Kid:</p>
<p>It would be SO HELPFUL for all of your readers to see a spreadsheet of all the debts, personal and business.  Know where you are in the BK process now long it will be until it is concluded.  And, get a better picture for your business&#8217; income generation, your P&amp;L statement, forecast, etc.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Smart Girl = MP</title>
		<link>http://www.debtkid.com/financial-emergency-wells-fargo-wipes-out-my-business-account/comment-page-1#comment-9916</link>
		<dc:creator>Smart Girl = MP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Debt Kid:

Un-official big sister here with a few ideas and suggestions for you.

First idea/suggestion:  Is your business incorporated or does it have any legal structure (i.e., partnership) where you could have someone else (that you trust) open the business account?    My thinking is that if you trust her, put your mother down as one of your owners.  The risk, however, is for your mother.  Should you start writing bad checks for the business, she could become responsible.

Question:  was the line of credit for personal or business related?  Was it subject to your bankruptcy process?  

Question:  have you spoken with your bankruptcy attorney about WF action ad any action/recourse you may have to have some, if not all, the funds returned?

About WF and seeking recourse – talk with your BK attorney.  Years ago (at the height of the dotcom boom) WF got involved in selling “securities.”  My parents in their retirement were very conservative investors – only having their $$ in CDs and real estate.  They had sold a piece of property and went to WF to buy a $100,000 CD.  They were introduced to a young man from “WF Securities” who had what he called an FDIC insured “callable” CD with a great interest rate.  My parents explained to him they would need the funds for a RE investment in approximately 12 months – could it be cashed at that time.  The young man assured it could.  

You can guess what happened:  One year later and it was the dotcom bust and my parents went to cash the CD.  It turns out the CD was “callable” only to the bank (my parents couldn’t cash it in) and only the interest rate was FDIC insured.  If the wanted to cash in the CD, they would receive only $76,000.   The young man was as nice as could be as he was screwing my parents.  He actually lied to them and I found the documents to prove it.  The best recourse was to call the local media.  A page one story got WF attention.  The day after the story ran, my parents got a call from WF corporate office where a check for $100,000 was waiting along with an attorney and a “non-disclosure agreement” that my parents would never again speak to the media about their experience.

What the bank did – I believe the term is sweeping – and is legal.  And no, they don’t need to notify or inform you.  They just do it.  Guess they learned that from Nike.  

In the meantime, I&#039;ve started my blog and you are on my blog roll.  I&#039;ve got my fingers crossed.  Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Debt Kid:</p>
<p>Un-official big sister here with a few ideas and suggestions for you.</p>
<p>First idea/suggestion:  Is your business incorporated or does it have any legal structure (i.e., partnership) where you could have someone else (that you trust) open the business account?    My thinking is that if you trust her, put your mother down as one of your owners.  The risk, however, is for your mother.  Should you start writing bad checks for the business, she could become responsible.</p>
<p>Question:  was the line of credit for personal or business related?  Was it subject to your bankruptcy process?  </p>
<p>Question:  have you spoken with your bankruptcy attorney about WF action ad any action/recourse you may have to have some, if not all, the funds returned?</p>
<p>About WF and seeking recourse – talk with your BK attorney.  Years ago (at the height of the dotcom boom) WF got involved in selling “securities.”  My parents in their retirement were very conservative investors – only having their $$ in CDs and real estate.  They had sold a piece of property and went to WF to buy a $100,000 CD.  They were introduced to a young man from “WF Securities” who had what he called an FDIC insured “callable” CD with a great interest rate.  My parents explained to him they would need the funds for a RE investment in approximately 12 months – could it be cashed at that time.  The young man assured it could.  </p>
<p>You can guess what happened:  One year later and it was the dotcom bust and my parents went to cash the CD.  It turns out the CD was “callable” only to the bank (my parents couldn’t cash it in) and only the interest rate was FDIC insured.  If the wanted to cash in the CD, they would receive only $76,000.   The young man was as nice as could be as he was screwing my parents.  He actually lied to them and I found the documents to prove it.  The best recourse was to call the local media.  A page one story got WF attention.  The day after the story ran, my parents got a call from WF corporate office where a check for $100,000 was waiting along with an attorney and a “non-disclosure agreement” that my parents would never again speak to the media about their experience.</p>
<p>What the bank did – I believe the term is sweeping – and is legal.  And no, they don’t need to notify or inform you.  They just do it.  Guess they learned that from Nike.  </p>
<p>In the meantime, I&#8217;ve started my blog and you are on my blog roll.  I&#8217;ve got my fingers crossed.  Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Shel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sending your TONS of positive thoughts! I know how terrible it feels to work so hard at digging yourself out, staying on the right path, doing things right then having a big setback like this. It sucks. But it will pass. You will figure it out. 

And if they won&#039;t give you the $$$? How much is your payroll? It&#039;s time to think of a contingency plan, just in case. Do you have anything you could liquidate quickly to raise the cash?

I just noticed that one of your sidebar ads is for Wells Fargo Checking-lolz. 

And if it gets too overwhelming, take a walk, get out in nature. my problems always seems silly after an hour with my dog at the beach. I don&#039;t know why, but it always works. You&#039;ll get through this, look at how far you&#039;ve already come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sending your TONS of positive thoughts! I know how terrible it feels to work so hard at digging yourself out, staying on the right path, doing things right then having a big setback like this. It sucks. But it will pass. You will figure it out. </p>
<p>And if they won&#8217;t give you the $$$? How much is your payroll? It&#8217;s time to think of a contingency plan, just in case. Do you have anything you could liquidate quickly to raise the cash?</p>
<p>I just noticed that one of your sidebar ads is for Wells Fargo Checking-lolz. </p>
<p>And if it gets too overwhelming, take a walk, get out in nature. my problems always seems silly after an hour with my dog at the beach. I don&#8217;t know why, but it always works. You&#8217;ll get through this, look at how far you&#8217;ve already come.</p>
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		<title>By: J.Hego</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.Hego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no recommendations for a business checking account but I wanted to put in some words of support.  I do hope that you find a way not to let this setback shut your business down.  I&#039;m sure many people, myself included, is pulling for you.  Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no recommendations for a business checking account but I wanted to put in some words of support.  I do hope that you find a way not to let this setback shut your business down.  I&#8217;m sure many people, myself included, is pulling for you.  Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: ZINTRADI</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZINTRADI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm maybe you might want to just operate in cash for a while, or out of a personal account if you have one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm maybe you might want to just operate in cash for a while, or out of a personal account if you have one.</p>
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		<title>By: trav</title>
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		<dc:creator>trav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have a walmart store close by, their banks have what they call 2nd chance checking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have a walmart store close by, their banks have what they call 2nd chance checking.</p>
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